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PostSubject: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 02 May 2014, 12:39 pm

Any genuine ideas on how to improve things would be welcome here. I might not listen to any of them, but they are welcome nonetheless
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 4:40 pm

1st, i think is easier to use power handicap buckets, that way the builds have to keep the same.

2nd, podium finishers have to move to a bucket.

3rd, a double bucket for someone still wining races in the bucket can be usefull.

4th, now that TC/TCB is moved from wednesdays, NSA EURO V8 will return?


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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 5:06 pm

+1 Manuel...
Plus the 09 CTS-V
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 9:22 pm

the constant issue with buckets was that it had no effect, you take the power away and it just makes them handle better, get off the corners earlier the lap-times either don't change or they improve. i think the podium build idea hasn't had enough time to see how effective it is so i'm sticking with it, i believe it will work.

i don't know about an early return, i'm pretty busy at the moment but maybe in a month or so i can get things going again. glad to know people are still interested, not sure how many people want three nights at once though.
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 9:41 pm

Eh. Buckets are not precise enough. For certain tracks they might not matter much and for others they make the car not even worth showing up in. With a build adjustment everything is more deliberate and thought out. Also, some cars reach higher speeds with less HP than others, so the buckets effect the cars unfairly. With a build the Oddfather here can fine tune exactly what he wants to do to each car, and it makes the racing closer as a result.
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 9:50 pm

The thing is that you have to aply the handling handicap in the rear, that will work.

Adjusting the build you Will have to put some over time to adjust the cars and maybe can be called not fair enought for some people.

The builds supossed to be close, so if a car is still faster than others like the M3 E92, they need to he adjusted before season starts.
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 11:16 pm

A bucket system will never work in the way of fairness manuel. Heres why. WHen i practiced with moe the other day at Road America My car made 413hp and his made 490 or so. We went about the same speed down the straight side by side. If you take 5% away from both of us the difference isnt going to slow us down equally in any way. Forza's grip handicaps are disgusting as well so those arent going to ever work. Leagues that use buckets to as a way to adjust cars because of race results are lazy.

You just need to be consistent on what is done. For example, you win and you lose 3 mph and Xmm of tire width, so the race director goes and figures out what to do to that car to slow it down by that amount and everything goes on its way.
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 30 May 2014, 11:30 pm

A bucket system can work.   Dont make it sound like it has never in the past.  If there are better alternatives then right on but if not then its better than nothing.   Knowing I will finish toward the back despite my efforts like last season tends to make me less interested.  I dont mind being a second or so off but its tough knowing you are 2+ off.  Certainly hard work to dial drivers and cars in.  But I am just saying I am in favor of something to level vs nothing done at all.   I will attempt the next season either way.
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PostSubject: Re: Series 4 Suggestion Box   Fri 13 Jun 2014, 12:57 am

The buckets worked fine when there wasn't a grip handicap. The season I was in the Lexus had a lot of close races between bucketed guys and ones not in buckets. Overall it'll still come down to the bucket being 'optional' faster guys should always be in the hp bucket aka mandatory. I can't really help with any suggestions or ways to implement potential changes since my work schedule prohibits me from racing/playing games from mon-fri
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